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Building a Radio Show Audience One Keyword At A Time by Brent Leary, 13 December 2007

Building a Radio Show Audience One Keyword At A Time

The majority of small businesses are not high flying tech companies or web savvy start ups. They’re largely traditional companies in low tech industries. And that’s the audience Brent Leary and Michael Thomas set out to reach when they launched their radio show, ‘Technology For Business Sake (TFBS)’. And how did they find their audience? Through keyword research, of course.

It is really hard for me to believe that for the past 52 weeks I’ve said the words “Welcome to another edition of Technology For Business Sake (TFBS)”. TFBS is a weekly hour long radio show on the first 24 hour business talk radio station in Atlanta Ga. I can honestly say I had no idea of what my co-host Michael Thomas and I were getting into when we discussed the idea of a radio show aimed at helping small and mid-size businesses (SMBs) understand all the things going on in technology didn’t have a clue as to how it would be received.

There were (and are) some well known shows that focus on consumer technology and target hardcore geeks, but we wanted to focus on entrepreneurs and small business owners. Plus we weren’t going to focus solely on internet entrepreneurs, but on traditional mainstream small business people and those not terribly savvy when it comes to using today’s technology. And contrary to popular demand, the majority of small businesses are not high-flying tech companies or web-savvy start ups. They are "traditionalists" - companies participating in low-tech industries that don't spark the interest of the media. Even though their core businesses may be low-tech, that doesn't mean they would not benefit from deploying technology to grow.

As you can probably imagine, there were a number of things we needed to do to get the show off the ground. Some were pretty obvious like coming up with a name, choosing a format for the show, lining up guests, and getting used to talking on air. And because it was radio, we had to make the show easy to listen to by having some fun with the guests and with each other, as we all know great information presented in the wrong way won’t make anyone want to listen to us for long. So our idea was to have conversations on topics of interest to SMBs, with people SMBs want to hear from, in a way that makes it fun to listen to.

Taking radio beyond Atlanta and onto the web

Although we were only on the air in Atlanta, the people we interviewed were well known all over, and the topics we covered were pretty universal with respect to small business. Like talking email marketing with Constant Contact CEO Gail Goodman, search engine optimization with Aaron Wall, or Wikinomics with author Don Tapscott for example. So we decided to repurpose the show as a podcast so people could listen to them on the web, or download them to their iPods.

The first thing we needed to do was to come up with a domain name that would be pretty easy to remember, and also bring some search traffic our way. After doing some keyword research, we settled on BusinessTechnologyRadio.com It’s a little long, but it contains some important terms that we thought would help us generate some hits to the site. We also wanted to include a few strategic words in the title of the site’s homepage that we couldn’t fit in the domain name, so we included “online small business radio podcast” there to help give us more opportunities to pick up some targeted search traffic.

Keyword research also played an important role in creating url text for the show pages when we were ready to post a new show. Having the right words in the url really paid off as show pages began showing up in relevant searches within a week. The other thing that helped move us up the results list was taking time to write thoughtful show summaries emphasizing strategic words for each page we put out.

Writing descriptive show summaries also proved important when putting together the RSS feed for the show podcast. Although it was critically important for us to have a solid website for the show, the majority of podcasts are downloaded from iTunes. These folks probably wouldn’t have found our site on their own, so we had to make sure our descriptions and tags caught the attention of people who’d be interested in our kind of content. In fact we even tag the audio files with keywords so that people can find the mp3s without having to visit the show site. And we paid attention to how other people tagged links to our shows on sites like Del.icio.us and Digg.

Finding guests small businesses want to listen to

But I think the most interesting way keyword research has added to the show is in how it aids us in finding interesting guests for our growing audience. For example, when we were thinking about doing a show on outsourcing IT projects, we decided to approach Elance.com CEO Fabio Rosati because there were a good number of searches for both Elance and Fabio. After talking to him we thought he’d make for an interesting interview and things worked out great. We followed that same method a number of times and have had great results to show for it. In fact one of the extra benefits coming from this approach is a number of high quality links back from people who have been on the show. So in addition to getting great guests on with us, we also start showing up in search results in some important phrases, and pick up quality links that brings us quality traffic.

It really paid off for us to take time up front to figure out what small biz types were interested in, who they wanted to hear from, and what they searched on when they were looking for information on the web. It helped us be in the top 30 search results in Google, Yahoo! and others for terms like “business radio”, “small business radio” and a host of others. And these terms have been a big factor in our little show being downloaded over 3,000 times last month.

So the radio show that started as an on-air lab experiment took the onramp to the web. And what was supposed to be a thirteen week trial on Atlanta radio has turned into 52 weeks (and counting) of programming that seems to be catching on in places like the UK…and Italy… and India… and New Zealand. Oh yeah and in Atlanta, GA.

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About Brent Leary

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Brent Leary is co-founder and partner of CRM Essentials, an Atlanta based consulting/advisory firm. He has been quoted in national publications such as Newsweek, Inc., CRM Magazine and Direct Marketing News. Leary is also host of "Technology—for Business Sake," a weekly radio program heard on 1160 AM in Atlanta, as well as on Business Technology Radio. His popular blog can be found at www.brentleary.com.

9 comments

  1. Greetings Mr. Leary,

    I wanted to thank you for what I considered the most informative article I've read in a very long time. I'm in the "brainstorming/research phase of developing a business plan related to doing business on the internet. I'm trying to confine my final subject into the area of African American/business/technology. My research has led me to the importance of keywords..and that in turn led me to worktracker.

    The reason I thought your article was fantastic is because of how clear, easy and straight forward it was. It so happens that I recently concluded a brief employment with a 24/7 gospel station here in San Diego, Ca, (1240am). We were broadcasting both on the air and on the web. After about two years, and due to financial difficulties, they are now just broadcasting on Sunday's and over the web. I'm thinking, maybe, with a little thought and effort, we can attempt to do what you were able to accomplish with your strategic approach and model.

    I will be sharing this article with the owner. Of course, one of the problems I face when trying to present similar information and ideas is that many if not most "lay persons" don't have even the basic awareness of what the internet/technology is capable of doing. And I'm really just a student myself, trying to grasp it all and apply it in a meaningful internet base business at some point.

    I'm sure your a very busy person, but if you have any suggestions or comments that you feel might be of benefit to me as it relates to building our gospel radio show and internet, I would more than welcome them. Or, maybe a consulting arrangement would be an option for the future.

    In any event, my real purpose was just to thank you for a well written and useful article. I will be subscribing to your blog. Thanks again.

    Gil Brown

    note: That web site in not directly related to this subject...just a part time business of mine.

  2. Hello Gil,

    I'm really sorry for the delayed response in getting back to you. Thank you for the kind words and for reading the article. I really do appreciate it. And please feel free to contact me when you have an opportunity to do so.

    Good luck with the radio show!

  3. I think the more tech-savvy non-tech businesses become, the more confident they get about allotting resources to the web and technology. The guests you have managed to get on the show is testimont to how enjoyable it is, and you certainly count me in as a loyal listener! Wish you the best of luck with the show into the future.

  4. Thanks for the article, i am just listening to your show now and its perfect for us. We are a small web design agency and deal mostly with small businesses. Now bookmarked in ITunes.

  5. Thanks for this case study. Just to ask, were there specific steps that were employed for your keyword research?

  6. Really useful article for anyone who creates podcasts as it shows that spending some time researching your audience and completing your feed with relevant descriptions can bring great results.

  7. thank u

  8. news ok

  9. I will be sharing this article with the owner.

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