Interview with Peter Kent, author of Search Engine Optimization for Dummies by Rachelle Money, 7 August 2008

Peter Kent is a renowned SEO expert responsible for a number of books and articles, as well as CEO of a successful consultancy firm. He talks of his frustrations at an industry he believes is now mostly scam, and of how small businesses can achieve great results without having to rely on expensive or time- consuming content.
Key points
- Local concept – people forget that their geographical location should be part of their keyword list. Stating where your business is based and which areas it covers will boost search engine rankings within a short space of time.
- Don't assume keywords. Do keyword research first to achieve a more focused SEO strategy and to remove abbreviations from your site.
- Target those communities who are talking about your product. Strike up a conversation with bloggers and forums and promote your site and services through them.
If you are unfamiliar with Peter Kent's name, just check your bookshelf. Remember when you bought Search Engine Optimization for Dummies? Well, he's the guy responsible for that book.
Kent's book is going from strength to strength, with the third edition published in June. In many ways he's a breath of fresh air because he doesn't just theorize about SEO - Kent practices it every day in his consultancy work.
Like a lot of people in SEO, it wasn't his first love. Throughout his mixed career Kent has collected a number of job titles; geologist, oil industry worker, nearly a dot.com millionaire, author, web developer, online marketer and now SEO consultant.
SEO scammers
It took Kent 18 months to convince his publisher to let him write SEO for Dummies back in the early noughties when it was a little known technique. Today it's popularity continues to grow, but SEO still has an image of 'anybody can do it'. This, Kent says, has led to the industry being hijacked by charlatans.
“Over the last few years as I speak to more clients and hear their stories, it has led me to believe that 80% of the business is scam.” Kent qualifies this remarkable statement by adding: “By that I mean that 80% of people in the business doing SEO consultancy are either running an outright scam, or they thought it was good to get into SEO because it's a hot area - but they don't really know what they're doing.”
This conclusion comes from Kent's own experiences of hearing business owners come to him with “horror stories” of how they have spent large chunks of their budget on optimizing their site, only to find that little if nothing has been done to achieve better rankings.
SEO for Dummies allowed people to learn techniques quickly but Kent admits that for a long-term strategy, businesses would need someone else. That 'someone else', in Kent's eyes, must not be a web designer. When Kent talks about web designers attempting to do SEO the frustration in his voice is clear. “I have never met a web design company or web design consultant who understands SEO,” he says bluntly.
For Kent the use of web design companies for SEO is the main source of those “horror stories.”
Kent says it is common for him to take on clients who have already received SEO from web designers. “I'll look at it (their website) and I see that it hasn't actually been optimized in any kind of way. Or, someone will say to me 'Is my site search engine-friendly?' I have a look at it and then go back to them and say, no. A few days later I'll hear back from the company telling me that the web design firm is now charging them $2,000 to make it search engine friendly.”
So what's Kent's advice? “Don't trust web designers as far as search engine optimization goes - even if they tell you they understand it, they don't. I used to say that a few understand it but I'm still waiting for them.“
Content is king.... sometimes
It's clear that Kent is someone who talks from experience - he knows what works, but not only that: he can tell you why it works. His time working on the coal face of SEO has led him to be creative with those clients who cannot rely on the traditional methods of boosting search engine rankings by generating content for their site.
Kent gives his top tips on how to conquer SEO without content:
“If you have a store that sells candles, you can play a few games to get links; like creating a software download library, for instance, and anybody who wants to be in the download library has to link to you. Let's be honest - if you have a candle site, are you going to be able to build something that is going to attract millions of links pointing at your site? Probably not.
“The reality is that you need to go out there and build links.”
Ways to do this include registering for web directories and issuing press releases and syndicated articles.
It's not all SEO says Kent, only one of the techniques he has used (with great success) in community marketing, as he explains.
“This guy I was talking to had a sports equipment store. He doesn't think he has a lot of competition because this is an up-and-coming sport in the US.
“He said there were people blogging about this sport, so I recommended he go to the bloggers and to those on forums, and strike up a rapport with chatty messages that don't look spammy. Introduce yourself and your site, tell them your story and say that your site will be of interest.
“Some of those bloggers will check the site out, write about it and link to it. Once that happens go back to them and tell them about your services, your products, or a promotion you are running.
“Ask if they would be interested in using or reviewing the product and send them a sample. Keep hitting them in that way.
“If it's a big blog you can ask them if they want to run a competition for their readers and no one else. There are so many ways you can work with these people.”
SEO for Dummies has long been regarded as a great starting point for people. We asked Kent to give the quickest and best SEO techniques that can be done instantly:
The local concept – if you have a local business, put up a contact page where the local area is listed. If you have a business in Denver, Colorado you should put your address on the site. But you don't just want traffic from people in Denver, you want it from around the state. I often tell clients to say at the bottom of a page 'serving other towns and cities', and name them.
Understand your keywords. Do keyword analysis, don't assume. I always tell people to spend a few bucks and get Wordtracker, spend a few hours, dig around, and do it properly.
It's interesting to hear that people are obsessed with abbreviations. They think it's important but when they do proper keyword research they often find that the same abbreviation means something different to a different group of people.
To find the keywords you need to optimize your own site try out the free Wordtracker seven day trial.
About Rachelle Money
Rachelle Money is a freelance journalist based in Scotland, UK. She graduated from the Scottish School of Journalism in 2005 where she was awarded an internship with two national publications - The Sunday Herald newspaper and The Big Issue magazine. Rachelle has been working with Wordtracker since August 2007 and is a regular contributor to the newsletter.








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As a design and development agency I have a lot of empathy with the comments and article here. It's amazing that even today there are designers out there that do not care about SEO, equally there are clients that care little about SEO.
I guess our job is to provide as much guidence as possible and if the wrong choice is made, ensure all recommendations were put in writing!
Having managed Technical Support Knowledge Bases in closed environments I have always had the luxury of testing and instant gratification of changes to search terms, keywords and the like. But optimizing for an open environment is a much different task. I'm glad I found Peter's book here. It is definitly time to go back to school.
The book was good, and Peter makes some good points.
I HIGHLY disagree with his opinion: "Don't trust web designers as far as search engine optimization goes - even if they tell you they understand it, THEY DON'T."
Maybe that is his experience SO FAR ;), that should never be generalized.
Basically you're telling people to go out and get an SEO expert - and we all know that 80% of them are just scams.
And of course there are (some) web designers who do not have a clue about SEO or just a general idea about the whole thing - but not ALL OF THEM.
Running a web design business myself that also offers SEO services, it is absolutely crucial to implement SEO right from the beginning when you create the page.
It saves so much time and money - and your client will appreciate that.
Regarding SEO tips - the most important tip that I tell people to start out with is PROPER keyword research. Spend AT LEAST 20-25% of your time dedicated on SEO for that. And Wordtracker is a good start, but a lot of things have to be calculated manually. KEI is only of use as a second or third argument, but NEVER as a first argument when choosing the right keywords.
Proper keyword research will not only tell you which phrases are worth (and REALISTICALLY make sense) being targeted but also it will tell you a lot about your clients and how they behave using Google (and other SE). It may also open your eyes regarding certain parts of your business that you have not thought about so far...
And of course, proper keyword research is just THE START of the SEO journey - but if you start off on the right foot your chances are much higher... ;)
Mike
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